number one no surprise, the penn state scandal, jerry sandusky, that cost joe paterno his job up there. can we put that into some kind of perspective yet? >> it is the greatest fall from grace in the history of sports in the u.s. i remember saying those same words about tiger woods a couple of years ago, the greatest fall from grace are ever. that now seems quaint compared to what's happened at penn state. and the thing about penn state that nation particularly hard is the school trumpeted itself as one of of only two schools in division i history to never be investigated by the ncaa, never get sanctions by the ncaa. to now have it be really the cher roint sundae of a year of awful scandals at places like the university of miami, ohio state, and it just speaks to a college football world that's sitting on a foundation of the worst kind of corruption and hypocrisy now. a statistic i keep coming took in my mind, the fact that in 1977, woody hayes, the great head coach of ohio state, at his peak, made 42 grand a year. 42 grand. they just signed urban meyer for $4.5 million a year to coach